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CPCN NEWMARKET CHAPTER NEWSLETTER

Source: Canadian Prostate Cancer Network

March Notes . . . David Saul, MD,
Subject; Mister, We Have to Talk


Our speaker for the March meeting was Dr. David Saul. Besides being a doctor who specializes in men's problems, David is also an author and he also confessed to wanting to be a stand-up comedian. He interspersed his talk with enough humor to demonstrate that he could carry this off quite well. His book on men's health titled "SEX FOR LIFE: The Lovers Guide to Male Sexuality", also demonstrated that he knows men's health below the waist. He has been treating male sexual dysfunctions and prostate cancer problems since 1977. David is also the director of the North Scarborough Men's Health Centre.

He opened his talk with some quick questions and answers . . .

"If you have prostate cancer, do you have opportunities to prevent recurrence? Yes! Opportunities to reverse it? Yes! Is it late in the game? Yes it is but, like Yogi Berra said, 'when it's the ninth inning and there are two outs and you've got two strikes against you, it's still not over 'til it's over.' But it's late".

He went on to say that obviously, when it's a low number PSA and there are no symptoms, there's a better opportunity for prevention and that's what he wanted to talk about, prevention. He said that the same information will apply to treatment. People ask if it's too early or too late to get a PSA test. According to Dr. Saul, it's never too early, it's never too late. He stressed that PSA testing is just screening. 25 years ago, when almost everyone was smoking, you would go to your doctor for a check up and be sent for a chest X-ray. You wouldn't be told to stop smoking, just go for a chest X-ray and if it was O.K. they would send you on your way until the next checkup. Until one year something would show up in the X-ray and then they would tell you to stop smoking. 

And that's what's happening with the PSA test. David dedicated his talk to the memory of Irving Fine. Irving Fine called him in December and said he was the Prostate Cancer Support Group leader for Orillia and asked him to come and give a talk on January 23rd. He had to cancel it because Irving died on January 14th. He didn't die of prostate cancer, he died of heart attack due to diabetes. He didn't even have prostate cancer and yet he was the founder and leader of the support group - he worried a lot about getting prostate cancer, even more than about diabetes and his heart problem. But, can a prostate cancer prevention strategy also help against diabetes and heart problems, high blood pressure and strokes? According to Dr. Saul, Yes! An emphatic yes.

I'm going to continue this report in the first person as it will better demonstrate Dr. Sauls enthusiasm and knowledge of the subject. He continued by stating, I'm going to give you some information about men's health. It's going to be all about men. It's nice to see so many women. Do you know who's leading the lobbying in the United States for prostate cancer research? It's the widows of the men who've died from prostate cancer. We're going to talk about health information and about how to prevent prostate cancer and how to prevent the recurrence of it. This is not going to be the same old stuff. You're going to hear new stuff, you're going to hear stuff that's going to shake you up a little bit. I may be a little provocative and maybe step on some people's toes but that's O.K. because that's the way to make you think about things and maybe you can make some positive changes in your life.

I'll start out with a joke. A man says to his wife, "I heard that the milkman has had sex with every woman on this route, except for one." His wife replied, "You know, I'll bet it's that stuck-up Phyllis over at number 23."

Now, what happens to us men as they get older? - Less exercise, we're not working, we're not getting the same physical exercise. There's more weight gain. We start getting a paunch. We get less sound sleep. Primarily because we have to get up to pee. All of a sudden, as we get older, the prostate gets bigger and we start getting up two, three, four times a night to go the bathroom. Women often have a problem, for instance, when they laugh really hard, they will have a small accident. That never happens in men unless there's a prostatectomy, or BPH. Less sex frequency. Why do we have sex? To make a baby, for fertility and when the hormones are down, when the body's need for making babies goes down, then the desire goes down, so there's less sex. Is there less happiness? 

What are the markers of happiness? For men, how do men measure their happiness? Often through their work and if they're retired, sometimes they feel like they've gone out to pasture. Sometimes they get into the rocking chair syndrome and they don't feel there's a purpose to their life. For forty or fifty years they were the protector and the provider. For two million years, ever since they've been on the planet, men have been the protectors and providers, going out on the hunt. Then, all of sudden, they're retired. What are they going to do?

They have different stresses. There can be money stresses, there can be illness stresses. These changes are all mental states. Then we get some diseases: Cancer, many different kinds - prostate, colon, lung, or skin cancer, which is the most common cancer we get as we age; heart disease, stroke, high blood pressure, that's still the number one killer; arthritis and osteoporosis, osteoporosis is thought of as a women's disease, if men live long enough, they'll get it; diabetes; alzheimer's; and of course ARML, we all have that - age related memory loss, that starts in the forties; cataracts, glaucoma - we get significant eye problems with aging; the enlargement of the prostate. 

The latest hot topic is andropause, which is male menopause, it's a real phenomenon and it's caused by insufficient testosterone levels. It starts in the thirties but doesn't really manifest itself until the sixties and about half the men have it. You get a loss of endurance, a loss of stamina, you feel tired all the time. There's more fat gain around the waist. You lose muscle mass, have more irritability, more depression and a loss of sexual desire. We can't use any of the testosterone treatments to overcome this, if we have prostate cancer. But andropause does not cause prostate cancer.

Let's talk about PSA tests. Are you looking for trouble? Yes, you are. If your PSA is two or one, that's good, that's what you want to hear. Is it 15? - That's trouble. Is it 8? That's the problem, we need to do a biopsy to find out if it's cancer. We're looking for trouble and it sometimes drives us crazy. Will it save a life? It hasn't been proven that PSA will decrease mortality. What happens if the biopsy is negative? Come back in two months or so, we'll do it again. Do I have cancer, do I not have cancer? It drives us crazy. And here's the big question; have you asked your urologist if he takes his PSA? Many urologists don't. 

One I was talking to at a conference, said he doesn't want to know about it until it's too late to have surgery. Many urologists feel this way, they don't want to go to limbo land, they're scared to. So what do we know? Prostate Specific Antigen (PSA) is the best marker for cancer there is. The best blood test we have for any type of cancer is the PSA test and it still has 75% false positives. It will give an earlier diagnosis, that's for certain. However, there is no proven impact on mortality by having early PSA tests, according to the most recent studies.

In a study of 1,000 men with a PSA of 10 or over, which is not normal but it's not obviously prostate cancer, so they did a biopsy. They did it up to four times. If the first biopsy was negative, they did it again four to six weeks later and if that was negative, they did it again, and again. The first time they did it, they had 22% cancer detection. They repeated the biopsies for the men with negative results the first time and came up with another 10% positive. The next repeat biopsies produced 5%. If they keep going, they might find something but the return gets lower and lower. For the cancers found in biopsies 3 and 4, there was a very low Gleason, a very low prostate cancer. Were they significant? We don't know. Probably it would take another 10 to 15 years to really do anything. If you look hard enough - you'll find it. When should we stop looking? Do we keep going until we find it, or do we stop after the first or second time? We don't know.

The medical dogma seems to be, "Find the prostate cancer and cut it out." It doesn't talk about life style changes and preventing it, it's just cut it out. In my opinion, prostate cancer can be prevented, postponed and maybe, possibly, even cured with natural methods. What do we know about prostate cancer? It's the number two male cancer and the estimates say that for every 20,000 men diagnosed in Canada, 4,500 will die of it. 30% of men will die with prostate cancer, not because of it.

There are many studies and statistics which indicate that lifestyles in different countries have a strong effect on the incidence of prostate cancer. People who have emigrated from China, which has an extremely low incidence of prostate cancer, have shown a marked increase to the North American average within one to two generations. This is because they are now eating a North American diet. In fact, statistics in Japan and Shanghai show an increase in prostate cancer as their diets are changing to be more like North America's.

Prostate cancer is present in all men, increasing as they get older. Autopsies done on men in their thirties who had died from other causes, showed a microscopic presence in 20% of them. This went up 10% every decade, until in their nineties, 100% of men will have at least microscopic prostate cancer. What we want is to try to stop it from leaving the microscopic stage. The evidence is less convincing regarding high fats. Everyone was saying eat low fat, low fat and the studies are not showing it any more. And what about testosterone? They say testosterone is terrible, get rid of your testosterone and we'll buy you time. 

Well, recent research is not showing that. It's showing that you need the proper amount of testosterone to prevent it from going from the microscopic stage to the cancer stage. Often when the testosterone goes down, because of aging, you know, as men get older, their testosterone goes down and the prostate cancer rates go up. So obviously this has something to do with testosterone going lower. So you need to keep the testosterone at a nice, steady level. Estrogen is now a new marker for initiating prostate cancer. There's a balance between estrogen and testosterone. Men have it and women have it. Post menopausal women have lower estrogen than their husbands who are the same age because a lot of estrogen is converted from testosterone. 

So, if you start lowering your testosterone because of andropause, you're going to have less conversion but, if you get fatter, you'll get more conversion because fat will aeromotize and you'll make more estrogen. Then you're going to shift the balance and start getting more estrogen and more risk of prostate cancer, it starts the flow, it makes it go from the microscopic into the full cancer. New information is showing that prostatitis, inflammation of the prostate, which is really hard to get rid of, can initiate prostate cancer. Continuous inflammatory response can finally lead to prostate cancer.

Oxidative, free radical damage - we have this data which shows that free radical damage from oxidation is present in heart disease, we have it clogging the arteries and we have it causing prostate cancer. All the more reason for antioxidant vitamins.

Here's a quick summary of a prevention program, then we're going to get into more details: Fat - obviously having the good fat is better than the bad fat.

Vitamins - research has shown that vitamin E and vitamin D decrease prostate cancer. It still has to be proven but it has shown in heart research that people who used these vitamins to help heart problems also showed a decrease in prostate cancer. So we see that indirectly it helped. We still don't know about vitamin C and vitamin A (or Beta carotene). Saw Palmetto hasn't been proven. Selenium is good.

More vegetable iso-flavones have been shown to decrease prostate cancer in rats, in laboratory dishes, - in men they still have to prove it. Especially the iso-flavones from soy. In the Orient, the majority of the proteins they eat are from fish and soy. In Japan they eat a lot of fish and they have the lowest rate of prostate cancer in the world and the highest stomach cancer as they eat a lot of raw fish. Eat less red meat and more vegetables And the most important - the most consistent dietary predictor of elevated prostate cancer is high consumption of milk and dairy products. Have you heard anywhere from the Dairy Board that drinking milk can cause prostate cancer? The most consistent dietary predictor, more than fat, more than meat, is dairy products. We're the only species on this planet that consumes another species' infant milk.

Calcium - we now know that calcium is associated with prostate cancer risk and a stronger association with metatastic and fatal prostate cancer with supplementary calcium. 628 men with newly diagnosed prostate cancer are being studied on how including vegetables in their diet is helping them. With four servings of vegetables a day, over a year they showed a 35% less cancer rate. If they had cruciferous vegetables - brussel sprouts, broccoli, cauliflower - three servings a week of these vegetables, there would be 41% less cancer rate. Let's not wait 15 years for the results of studies. We have a lot of men, who have shown that the natural approach is effective. I don't have time to wait for the trial results.

This is my personal prevention program: Low saturated fats; no red meat; no dairy; omega three fatty acids - more fish, especially salmon, it'll help your heart, it'll help arthritis, it'll help prostate cancer; more fiber - lots more vegetables a little less fruit, it tastes good but it's all sugar and there's not a lot of fiber; lower your insulin levels so you'll have less risk of diabetes - diabetes will kill you faster than anything - lower your insulin level, less bread, rice, potatoes, pasta corn, fruit and meat, Wait, isn't this is what everybody eats? This is our diet, this is everything. I didn't say cut it out, I said cut it down.

Always eat the mono-unsaturated fats, nuts like almonds, not the peanuts and cashews. Bananas are very bad, they have a lot of saturated fats and so do egg yolks. Less coffee, it's linked to prostatitis; moderate alcohol, no pop - it's all sugar and the diet pop is worse. Soy products are very good; legumes; tempeh, which is fermented soy, that's what they eat in the Orient. They don't eat tofu there, they eat tempeh. Tofu is a little bad; tomato, because of lycopene is something you should eat, also onions and garlic. Get plenty of exercise and a good sleep, nine hours a night if you can. Eat less to live longer. Get out in the sun. Be happy!

Dr. Saul spent another thirty minutes fielding questions from the audience but space doesn't allow me to include it here. Members attending the meeting often take this opportunity to get a second opinion on the treatment they are taking. Many times they take home information that helps them enjoy a longer more meaningful life.

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